I can't decide it is just too hard!!!

"YSI-what can brown do for you" (ysi-what-can-brown-do-for-you) 12/06/2013 at 22:09 • Filed to: None

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So as some of you may know, I am getting wheels. . . whenever that happens. There is only one problem, I can't decide what size. My head says 17x9, that way the wheel will be lighter, it will cost a bit less, and it won't be taller than stock! Then I see pics of 18x9.5 and they are always sexy. ALWAYS! What are your thoughts? Should I take the slight lose in performance for the gain in sex appeal, or the other way around? Here are some 17x9s for reference. I think I am leaning towards the smaller wheels.

exizeo - still loving fourza > YSI-what can brown do for you 12/06/2013 at 22:12

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17x9 all the way.

Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur > YSI-what can brown do for you 12/06/2013 at 22:12

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IMO I'd go for the big ones. They just look better and are possibly easier to re-sell in the future (people love 18s). The smaller ones will be less of a pain though. With bigger than stock ones you have to re-calibrate your speedo.

Tyler's SVT Focus Hates Him > YSI-what can brown do for you 12/06/2013 at 22:14

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These do look pretty damn good...

Ramblin Rover - The Vivisector of Solihull > YSI-what can brown do for you 12/06/2013 at 22:14

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Maybe compromise and go with a 17" that "looks bigger". Your pictures are tricky, because the color and design of the 17" makes it look smaller, and the stinking fender design *does* demand a large wheel look. Which makes getting the look right difficult, but I don't think you'll have really any advantages from the 18".

Nighthawkwill7, Hoon Depot Manager > YSI-what can brown do for you 12/06/2013 at 22:14

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Lulz

lonestranger > YSI-what can brown do for you 12/06/2013 at 22:15

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YSI-what can brown do for you > Tyler's SVT Focus Hates Him 12/06/2013 at 22:15

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Hopefully when I do buy wheels they will still have those in the size I want. They have a ton in 18 inches, but 17x9s are really rare, not too rare though fortunately.

YSI-what can brown do for you > Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur 12/06/2013 at 22:16

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Plus 18s rub slightly for a little bit. They also lose a bit when accelerating but it shouldn't be anything major.

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 12/06/2013 at 22:21

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go big or go home. Itll be easier to go smaller later on if you want (i think). But do it now while you can.

My same reasoning why ill be getting super dark tint this spring. Id rather go darker rather than regretting not going dark enough. (replace 'darker' with 'wide(r)')

Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur > YSI-what can brown do for you 12/06/2013 at 22:22

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Pros and cons I guess

YSI-what can brown do for you > MountainCommand 12/06/2013 at 22:25

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It seems to be the trend for me. I started out wanting 18x8s then 18x8.5s. Now I want a 9" wheel, and maybe even a 9.5" wheel. Anything after that will require some work to fit.

YSI-what can brown do for you > Velocity- Peuguette Connoisseur 12/06/2013 at 22:26

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Pros: Looks like sex which is a very tempting reason.

YSI-what can brown do for you > Ramblin Rover - The Vivisector of Solihull 12/06/2013 at 22:31

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Well the top picture has the wheels I want. Try and imagine them on the bottom car. I can't find any pics of them on this car in the smaller size.

Here are some on an S2000

YSI-what can brown do for you > lonestranger 12/06/2013 at 22:31

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We aren't talking about jailbait. Gawd.

YSI-what can brown do for you > exizeo - still loving fourza 12/06/2013 at 22:31

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I am leaning towards that.

Ramblin Rover - The Vivisector of Solihull > YSI-what can brown do for you 12/06/2013 at 22:43

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I'd say they'll be fine. I think you get enough embiggening effect from the black, dishing, and spoke count that it'll look great.

Team6.1 > YSI-what can brown do for you 12/06/2013 at 22:45

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In my opinion 18's look better on the car. I upsized my mustang rims to 19's although 20's look just as good. The added height and width over stock fill out the wheel wells and make everything look much better. You might gain some rotational mass but you would also gain width

lonestranger > YSI-what can brown do for you 12/06/2013 at 22:53

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You got off lucky. I almost was going to post Club Seventeen.

Seriously, though, my vote is for 17x9.

YSI-what can brown do for you > Team6.1 12/06/2013 at 22:56

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The width is negligible. The max size tire you can fit on a 9" wheel is 265 I think. On 9.5 it is 275. So it isn't that big of a deal. Plus both sizes fit perfectly within the wheel, although 9.5s rub just slightly.

Did you feel any loss in performance? It might be less noticeable for you, but with only 200hp, I don't have any horsepower to spare!

YSI-what can brown do for you > Ramblin Rover - The Vivisector of Solihull 12/06/2013 at 22:58

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I hate when a lip takes up 25% of the rim. Not only does it make the rim look cheaper but like 3" smaller. Observe, also excuse the hideous design

Bytemite > YSI-what can brown do for you 12/06/2013 at 23:44

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Do not ever up size from a 17. If anything, if you go down to 16s ur car will be even faster because less rotational weight. 18s will add too much weight.

YSI-what can brown do for you > Bytemite 12/06/2013 at 23:50

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Those are my thoughts, but the differnce isn't crazy. I think the 17s are 18lbs and the 18s are 21lbs. Still though, unsprung weight is the most important weight you can lose.

Milky > YSI-what can brown do for you 12/06/2013 at 23:57

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lol awkward gap …. go bigger.

SPNKiX > YSI-what can brown do for you 12/07/2013 at 00:01

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Go donk. 30s or go home.

B_dol > YSI-what can brown do for you 12/07/2013 at 00:15

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I'd say go for the 18's. I plan to 18x8.5 square setup on my FRS. Why the super wide wheels? Really oversized for the car and requires coilover adjustability to work.

Bytemite > YSI-what can brown do for you 12/07/2013 at 00:17

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That's 3 lbs per wheel. That is definitely not worth it. 17s at 18lbs are already heavy compared to the 14s at 9 lbs that I have. With lightweight direzzas at 17 lbs. Only 26 lbs per wheel.

feather-throttle-not-hair > YSI-what can brown do for you 12/07/2013 at 00:31

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The correct answer is always either 17s or 18s.

Who's completely unhelpful? This guy!

YSI-what can brown do for you > B_dol 12/07/2013 at 00:52

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Well one, I really like the way 9" wheels look on these cars, and two: so that there will be more than enough rubber for anything I would like to do in the future. My original plan was 18x8.5, but I found out you can buy the wheel in 17x9, which seems much more appealing.

Also, what wheels are you looking at? I want the ones up top. Gram Lights 57xtreme!

YSI-what can brown do for you > Bytemite 12/07/2013 at 00:53

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Holy shit! That is super light. What wheels are you running. The ones I want are cast and aren't ungodly expensive considering their quality.

YSI-what can brown do for you > feather-throttle-not-hair 12/07/2013 at 00:54

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You were the worst help. Worse than the guy who said to go donk. . .

YSI-what can brown do for you > SPNKiX 12/07/2013 at 00:54

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I have seen the light. . .

YSI-what can brown do for you > Milky 12/07/2013 at 00:56

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Right?! That would annoy me, but at the same time, 17s can look good on this car. You just need to run 255s I think, to get dat fat wheel.

SPNKiX > YSI-what can brown do for you 12/07/2013 at 01:04

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I know.

Squid > YSI-what can brown do for you 12/07/2013 at 01:05

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Listen to your engineers intuition... The 17's will be a better performing wheel. If you need to sell them there will be a guy out there that knows that the weight saved at the wheels makes a huge difference. Your braking is better, suspension works better, minor bump in acceleration (0.0001 sec...) but really if you want steering feel stick with the smallest lightest wheel you can in your budget. If you want to track, the 18's won't hep you at all. Get the 17's and feel good that you know there is a purpose behind the mods you choose, and that purpose is speed! (I'm on mobile right now, if my damn internet was working I would have put the "oh meth, oh meth" song after that...)

Weight on the wheels is the worst place you can add it to.

B_dol > YSI-what can brown do for you 12/07/2013 at 01:12

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Yeah i hear you there, the concavity is nice. For my first set i'm gonna go the RPF01 route, cheap and lightweight. The next set will be Gram Light 57Xtreme or possibly Advan GT wheels, can't get enough of the 5 spoke look.

Bytemite > YSI-what can brown do for you 12/07/2013 at 01:21

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Check out kosei k1 ts. I think they only come in 14 and 15 tho..

YSI-what can brown do for you > B_dol 12/07/2013 at 02:29

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If I were you, I would go Advan GT. They are sooooo sexy. The Gram Lights are my first wheels for quite a long time. After that we will see what comes up.

YSI-what can brown do for you > Squid 12/07/2013 at 02:38

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Fair enough. My head is telling me to get 17s. They are just a better idea. They are also about 200 bucks cheaper, which is great! 18s look soooooo nice though, it is so hard for me not to want one. I will probably get the 17s, they don't look bad at all. Plus you get the something the 18s don't, extra concavity(they will look more concave atleast), which as we know wins ladies over.

I won't be getting the lightest wheel though. I want something stylish, fairly light, and affordable. They aren't RPF1 light(or as cheap), but I think I can live with that.

Squid > YSI-what can brown do for you 12/07/2013 at 02:49

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Just another thing to think about when shopping for wheels, look at the two different tire sizes you can use and see which is cheaper and which has the better tires. But for the gods sake don't put a tire that is big enough to start rubbing. You will end up lower than stock and it just looks really bad when your tires rub your fenders and get cut up. Not to mention I can't imagine a lady thinking wheels rubbing and making some noise is attractive. . . I sway more into the 17's because any way to save some pounds on wheels is the way to go in my books. But the only thing that could sway me is if the 17" tires were more expensive than the 18" tires. Hopefully that isn't the case but think further down the road than your wheels getting you some sweet purdue pussy. . .

*Disclaimer: I have been drinking and I have also been up for ~36+ hours. . .

YSI-what can brown do for you > Squid 12/07/2013 at 03:00

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I want to say 17's win out in both cases. Lots of vender cars running 17s for their track cars and I think tire choice is plentiful. . . or so I have heard. I also think you can run 255s without worrying about rubbing, and if it does rub you can get coilovers and your problem is solved!

I am assuming you have finals? Why would anyone stay up for that long?

Squid > YSI-what can brown do for you 12/07/2013 at 03:08

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Not finals yet, I had my last tests in O-chem and Calc before the final. It is "dead week" next week then I have calc at 8 am and o-chem at 10 on monday morning. . . FML I don't think I could have been screwed any worse than that with the damn finals schedule.

Look into the tires you want to buy and check the prices between the 18's and 17's. If no or very little difference let the physics decide which is best. . .

YSI-what can brown do for you > Squid 12/07/2013 at 03:15

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Don't worry, I have no idea what I am doing in Calc 3 and I have a final next week. I haven't started studying yet. . .

Squid > YSI-what can brown do for you 12/07/2013 at 03:19

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Atta boy!

YSI-what can brown do for you > Squid 12/07/2013 at 03:22

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Here is to failing!!!

Alex87f > YSI-what can brown do for you 12/07/2013 at 05:22

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Ugly taillights? Fixed!

Stupidru > YSI-what can brown do for you 12/07/2013 at 08:36

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Stick with the 17s. I'm probably going to sound like a broken record, but when you consider that you'll accelerate faster, brake faster, turn faster, have a better feel with the road, have a better ride in your car (less weight that the suspension has to absorb over a bump), and you'll get better MPGs, I think the only decision is 17s. Not to mention when it comes time to replace tires you'll save lots of dollars there as well. I bought my wife's Forester a set of RPF1s to see if we could squeak out some better mileage numbers and better suspension. The 09 FXT wheels are 29lbs (!) whereas the RPF1s are 17lbs. Do the math, Mr. Engineer, because this engineer is too lazy to find out what your new polar moment of intertia will be on your new wheels.

Stupidru > YSI-what can brown do for you 12/07/2013 at 08:38

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FYI, this guy takes some awesome shots of his car that are desktop wallpaper worthy

Team6.1 > YSI-what can brown do for you 12/07/2013 at 09:16

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Not sure. But I went from 18x8 235 all season to 19x9.5 275 summers. So my gain in traction both straight line and corner outweighed any weight gain. I was also bolting on and flash tuning at the time so multiple performance mods at once made it hard to tell the affect of any single thing.

Team6.1 > YSI-what can brown do for you 12/07/2013 at 09:20

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I'd suggest trying to find a forum where someone has bought the exact wheels you are looking at. Finding the weight of the stock wheels and comparing them to your choices. And ultimately decide if lap times or drag races or street racing etc. are what matters most to you, or if it's coming out of work or the grocery and seeing your car parked there, and going "daaayyuummm, that's a good mother fucking looking car". Maybe you can get both with the correct 18.

YSI-what can brown do for you > Team6.1 12/07/2013 at 15:12

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Where do you think I got the pictures from, they are from the biggest GT86 forum out there! So far no one has bought the wheels I want in 17x9, which is good because from my knowledge only 2 vendors have them and about 5 sets for each. In other words there are 10 sets in the bolt pattern. . .

As for looks, well they are important but I like to race my car a bit which is more important(and more fun). I think I am going 17s and worry about looks later(although it will still look amazing).

Team6.1 > YSI-what can brown do for you 12/07/2013 at 15:41

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Sounds like 17s are the way to go then. Keep it light.

MountainCommand > YSI-what can brown do for you 12/07/2013 at 17:01

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Dont forget to figure cost into this. If you can get the bigger wheel for cheaper, and still have cash to do other fun things, then why not?

I think id draw the line at fender rolling, or removing the wheel well lining haha.

YSI-what can brown do for you > MountainCommand 12/07/2013 at 23:33

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Some people have fitted wider without rolling fenders but the results aren't exactly great. Here are some 10s in front and 10.5 in the rear. As you can see some pretty serious stretch and about 6 degrees of chamber all around. It still rubs, as you can see . . .

I want to say that the wheel and tire are both cheaper in 17 inch guise. I know the wheel is. Nearly 200 bucks cheaper.

YSI-what can brown do for you > Stupidru 12/07/2013 at 23:40

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Plus the 17s don't look bad by any means. Plus function is always sexier than just pure form, but that might just be me.

Oh, and I know he makes excellent wallpaper worthy pictures. One of them is my current wallpaper.